LWL Tools — Post #5
Ken Wilber, the co-founder of Transpersonal Psychology (and revered as the “Einstein of consciousness”), once said:
“the only people who think they create their own reality (as in exclusively of their own accord) are Psychopaths.”
Well, Ken… we sorta dig the statement and, uhmmmm, actually think you’re on to something.
In the video below, Barry explains why that is, and ALSO passes along a tool that’ll open you up to seeing a more expansive BIG PICTURE view of the external realities that form around you.
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The Ken Wilbur quote caught my attention. Then you go on to say in video about 80% of the people would rather die than think.
Being on disability I have a lot of free time which I use researching and I ran across some brain studies that suggest that the same parts of your brain “light up” during thinking and when registering pain. Might explain why 80% don’t want to think; it hurts!
I’m the square peg in the round hole. I’m really not a fit in the “spiritual” crowd nor the “redneck” bunch I grew up with.
This was great .. I have to be honest here though … I used to be one of those “bliss ninnies” with my head in the sand, because emotionally I just couldn’t handle the fear that came with hearing the truth about outer events. It was just too overwhelming. Well, I suppose I’ve grown up a bit because I “get” the interconnectedness of things which includes looking directly at the inner and outer shadow. I won’t say that I’ve totally overcome the overwhelm and fear but at least I’m willing to engage it. Guess that’s progress. But I still come back to “what now?” The shadow “out there” feels so big … but maybe it’s simply a mirror of my own. At any rate, my head is at last above the sand now and I’m willing.
[Heather’s REPLY]
LOL… “bliss ninnies”, I love it! 😉
Glad you’re making progress… and there’s no need to be overwhelmed by the “shadow out there”, just acknowledge, know you can’t control it, and work on what you can (there’s that Alcoholics Anonymous “serenity prayer” sentiment).
cheers
Heather
In a nutshell, there is nothing and no one “out there”. Everything comes into our awareness to be “healed” or “made whole” because what we really are is already whole. It is important to understand how this physical duality Universe operates, and it is important to remember that there is a level of consciousness more persistent than the one that projects and perceives the physical. I discovered years ago that I could read about something that bothered me (such as nuclear weapons or environmental destruction) and I found I could use this more persistent level of consciousness to “heal” what I saw. Months later, I would read about the “problem” being solved just as I had imagined it. Also, I have found I can move my consciousness into other people’s bodies (and plants and animals too) and see hear and feel what they are experiencing. Most people just stare at me blankly when I tell them this, but neuroscientists have just completed experiments where they accomplished the same thing using machines. When you discover this inner resource, not only is it not necessary to “protect” yourself from anything “out there”, it becomes a gift any time something comes into your awareness to be “healed”. As you “heal” within you “heal” without, and vice versa, because they are all the same. I would love to hear your thoughts about this. Thank you!
[Heather’s REPLY]
Hi Ilana,
That depends on your definition of “out there”. You may have gotten that quote from the Einstein-esque quantum physicist in “What the Bleep Do We Know?” (name escapes me at the moment), and if you are defining it based on the fact that “we are all connected” (as has been rehashed many times in this series of posts) then technically you could say that was correct; but as far as semantics go, it’s a stretch.
When you look at a forest, yes it is one entity; one side of the forest is still part of the same forest as the other side, hence neither is “out there”. Correct.
However, to the tree on the one edge, the far tree on the opposite side is certainly “out there”. It’s all a matter of perspective, and we don’t need to ignore the small-picture “tree reality” that Barry talks about in his video in order to acknowledge the big-picture “forest reality”.
If you teach students, then telling them there’s no “out there” doesn’t enhance understanding. Telling them that we’re all connected, and yet not “responsible” for what happens “out there” does.
Similarly, yes, telling people that you can get inside others’ consciousness will most certainly illicit blank stares at best; that’s not something most people can relate to, and therefore it’s more likely to push them away than to bring them enlightenment (on that particular topic, not “enlightenment” in the holier-than-thou sense most often used in spiritual growth circles).
I find it interesting though that you think everything that comes into our awareness needs to be “healed”. I don’t agree with that; it would require labeling everything we experience as “bad”, and in need of “healing”, rather than just accepting what is or seeing the beauty in it.
BTW, what did you think you healed about the environment? Last I heard we still had smog, pollution, global warming, ozone thinning, tree cutting and other “destruction” happening (although, if the world truly is abundant, we have to wonder if those things are really “destructive” or just part of the cycle that happens in this Universe).
cheers
Heather
[ Barry’s Reply ]
Ilana, in addition to Heather’s very “on the mark” reply – one that definitely needed to be rooted in practical-thinking to ground your very head-scratching comments – I’m just going to flat out ask you:
How’s the whole transposing your consciousness into other people’s body thingy working out for you – personally and professionally? Getting results? Affecting change that can be SEEN and acted on at the PHYSICAL level?
In my video, I said: “Oneness (as in the Law of Oneness) doesn’t favor you playing it safe in your own little sandbox, while blowing good thoughts into the air for a peaceful planet, any more than it favors you thinking you’re responsible for [ physically ] taking care of everyone and everything that is ‘not up to par’ in your mind.”
Trying to make a difference in life, by ONLY putting your own personal energy into the ethers, borders on spiritual narcissism. And, constantly attempting to get life to mesh-up with very rigid non-usable belief systems, is akin to Cognitive Dissonance gone bad ten times over.
This 24-page report makes it pretty clear WHY that is:
http://www.lwlworldwide.com/dwnloads/understanding-the-world.pdf
Great video Barry! It’s good to see someone in your market helping people “wake up.” One video series I’m watching now is called “Hijacking Humanity” which can be viewed on youtube. Here’s the first part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2qPZ9WqLy4
What I practice, and what I teach, has very tangible, measurable, physical benefits and results. I can share those with you sometime if you like. There are too many examples to go into here. And Heather, I never said that “everything” that comes into our awareness needs to be “healed” or that any of it is “bad”. However, anything that we perceive as separate from ourselves is an illusion, and in that sense needs “healing”, or acceptance, or love, or whatever you would like to call it. As for projecting my consciousness, that experience has given me tangible evidence that we are not limited to the experiences of just one physical body. The empathy I have for other beings is total as a result, and has immeasurable benefits in my work. BTW I was where you are now about three years ago. Just wait, keep going, you have amazing things to look forward to!
[Heather’s REPLY]
Hi Ilana,
You did actually say “everything”… here’s your quote:
“Everything comes into our awareness to be “healed” or “made whole” because what we really are is already whole.”
BTW when you talk about us being whole here, you’re really referring to our Higher Self “us”… the danger in saying that is that people often think you mean the physical Lower Self “us” and that they have nothing left to do because they’re already “perfect” or “whole”. That kind of thinking, unfortunately, stops many people from achieving everything they can, and perhaps even what they came here to do.
cheers
Heather
[ Barry’s Reply ]
Heather, In my experience with people living in self-contradiction, they are ALWAYS going to find ways to justify backpedaling on statements of absolute spiritual truisms when they’re asked to look at their self-induced truth in another “light.” Black and white beliefs, without critical-interpretation of their validity as being personally effective, always ride on shaky ground.
“Oh, I didn’t say that.” or “I didn’t mean that.”
Spiritual philosophy permeates the foundational core of some people’s entire identity to the point where they find ways to match ‘manufactured’ ( or illusory ) experiences with their extreme internal black and white philosophy. These very people want to TEACH people to ASCEND beyond the realness, rawness, and full-color adventure / pleasantries of “the physical” because they haven’t figured out how to make “the physical” work for themselves ( yet, they “believe” they have ).
It’s always more convenient (a “cop out” really ) to project the identity of being “evolved” from the very thing they haven’t mastered themselves: Finding meaning, getting personal results, and making a difference HERE – as within their physical experience.
And, by the way, did you catch the little “you’ll get to where I’m at” ( paraphrased ) nonsense at the end of Ilana’s reply? Classic spiritual arrogance – i.e., the belief that she has evolved past our spiritual understanding – to support her self-delusion.
I certainly endorse people expanding their personal awareness and the collective awareness of the everyday world we all share on this planet.
Good stuff, I listened and watched a lot of docos to always expand myself and see what others are thinking and feeling around the world and the last decade in particular had some amazing docos.
still, keep in mind even the people making docos have agendas and their own b.s. they are dealing with consciously or unconsciously.
Some of best docos I seen this decade that make you think have been “The Corporation” and the one exposing the Fox news which the name escapes me.
Dr. Suzuki has a good one on spiritual cinema circle
Dr. Bruce Lipton has many great audios floating around on internet for free that go from the micro to macro world we live in of our cells, bodies, mind, society and planet.
Barry, I think you just hit the nail on the head about teachers obsessed with ascending…..
There is some brutal physical reality truth about wanting be somewhere else for people pre-occupied with ascending somewhere else. I suspected for sometime this physical game of life
maybe they do not feel good at manifesting here and their beliefs systems whilst being here now they can avoid to a large degree.
If they convince themselves some bs of this physical game of life is unimportant and something not worth engaging in fully and getting good at then evolving so they can ascend seems to be a common theme.
Much the same as religious people trying to convert others and always obsessed with the after life and getting to a heaven.
Anyway… maybe this is just some of my bs….lol
I am more interested in the here and now and getting some mastery on making the life I am living now manifesting in a way I really desire and that means dealing with bs that is getting in my way and hopefully helping others do the same.
Yeah, I did say “everything”, didn’t I?
OK. I didn’t reread my post before responding. But I definitely did not say that everything “needs to be healed because it’s bad”, which is how Heather seemed to interpret it, yes?
And Barry, I am not backpedaling! I want to repeat that I do get very definite, observable results from my mental and spiritual practice. That’s why I use it, that’s why I teach it, because it frickin’ works. Where did you get the impression that I “haven’t figured out how to make the physical work” for myself?? Or that I have any interest at all in “ascending” someplace else?
I apologize for the apparently condescending remark about “getting to where I am”. But tell me, honestly, aren’t you really angry about a lot of stuff right now? It sounds like it to me. I was really pissed off a few years ago about some of the stuff I had been taught that proved to be not only ineffective but downright disempowering and even dangerous in some cases. But that taught me some important lessons, and I’m a lot more careful these days.
About the environment and war, etc., there are amazing things happening if you look. You won’t find it on the evening news. The major news networks seem to define “news” as “bad things happening to other people”. Take a look online, and you’ll find what I’m talking about.
Or is that too black and white? Just kidding!!
I’m enjoying this conversation. Hope you are too, really.
[Heather’s REPLY]
Hi Ilana,
We’re not doing this for the enjoyment… we’re doing it to help you overcome your blocks so you can see where you’re holding yourself back and getting in your own way. We do the same for any community members brave enough to come out and engage in what we’re covering here.
Let’s stop with the “I didn’t say that” stuff, OK? Your previous comments are here for everyone to read, so it’s not a matter of hearing someone wrong in a conversation.
Yes, you did say “everything”, and you also said “heal”. Again, both are in the quote of yours that I showed you in my last reply: “Everything comes into our awareness to be “healed” or “made whole” because what we really are is already whole.”
Now you’re saying: “But I definitely did not say that everything “needs to be healed because it’s bad”, which is how Heather seemed to interpret it, yes?”
Now let’s look at my original comment to you again: “I find it interesting though that you think everything that comes into our awareness needs to be “healed”. I don’t agree with that; it would require labeling everything we experience as “bad”, and in need of “healing”, rather than just accepting what is or seeing the beauty in it.”
Perhaps that’s a little “too black and white” for you?
Please don’t try to tell me that you go around wanting to “heal” things or “make them whole” because they’re all GOOD in your eyes? Because they’re PERFECT and BEAUTIFUL already… that’s what makes you want to “heal” things and “make them whole”?
Alright, this is about to get even more black and white.
First of all: If, as you say, “what we really are is already whole” then WHY ON EARTH do we need to make anything else “whole”… because if WE are already whole, then so is everything ELSE!
Secondly: Again, I find it hard to believe that you are trying to teach people they need to HEAL things that are already PERFECT. Yes, “Bad” and “Good” are very simplistic, and all in the eye of the beholder, which is why I put “bad” in quotes in my original comment to you. But let’s continue on with this simplicity, because I do feel making it “black and white” makes a good illustration in this case.
Sure, there are various degrees of “bad” and “good”, if those are the words we are using (and they are in this example). But I don’t know anyone who would logically think that something needs to be “healed” if it’s not at least 1% “bad” in their eyes. Since you’re the one talking about healing things, then it would come down to YOUR interpretation of what in the world around you has some element of “bad” in it and needs to be “healed” or “made whole” (and since “everything” in your awareness, according to your statement, needs to be “healed”, except for YOU, who is “already whole”, then we MUST assume that you see some “bad” in “everything” or you wouldn’t need to “heal” it).
Is this logic getting too complicated, or are you following me? Please let me know if I need to clarify for you.
Now to be fair, you did say “we” are “already whole”. So I must assume, since you believe that, that you are not trying to “heal” other people or “make them whole” (what’s the point if they’re “already whole”?) so you must be talking about animals, plants, situations, events, inanimate objects and so forth that you feel need to be healed.
Then you went on to say that “I discovered years ago that I could read about something that bothered me (such as nuclear weapons or environmental destruction) and I found I could use this more persistent level of consciousness to “heal” what I saw. Months later, I would read about the “problem” being solved just as I had imagined it.”
So I asked you what you have “healed” on the environmental front, and your answer was, “there are amazing things happening if you look. You won’t find it on the evening news. The major news networks seem to define “news” as “bad things happening to other people”. Take a look online, and you’ll find what I’m talking about.”
Ummm… yes, Ilana, we all know that you can find all sorts of information online. Probably millions of instances of “amazing things happening”. My question was regarding what YOU have personally “healed”, since you claim you have, and why you haven’t “healed” some of the other things I mentioned (smog, pollution, global warming, ozone thinning, tree cutting, etc.)
BTW I used to work in broadcast news, and while I agree there are many shortcomings in the industry, including the attitudes of my co-workers (the main reason I gave up anchoring once I reached where I had wanted to go), there are many journalists who are in it for all the right reasons and feel they are doing a public service by telling people what they have a “right to know”.
“News” is meant to be things that don’t happen all the time. People having a good day is not news-worthy, because people all around you are having great days all the time. Someone getting murdered IS news, because proportionately it doesn’t happen very often (which is a wonderful thing, if you look at it with the right spin… so the more “bad” stuff we see on the news, the more “good” stuff we know is happening in the world, that will never be reported on).
Nonetheless, yes, obviously there are a lot of very important things happening on this planet that are also not being reported on mainstream news, and can often be found online… hence the whole reason for these series of posts. Did you, by the way, read David Icke’s report on the PDF?
And before I stop bringing your habits to your attention, I do have to highlight one more, which is the anger issue you have.
Why on earth would you assume that Barry and I are angry just because we’re doing our mission, which is bringing alternative views to an audience to help them better create (or rather, facilitate) the lives they want? If we give someone a tool for overcoming their stumbling blocks, why does there have to be anger behind that?
I would say that this is a classic case of the “mirror effect”. Since you have (so still do) experienced anger in your spiritual quest, you are reflecting that onto us. That means it still bothers you, or pushes your buttons; otherwise you would not interpret things that way.
As for why Barry keeps referring to you not having manifested things physically, that’s based off the in-depth conversation he had with you where you revealed what your personal and financial situation really was. As far as your business situation since that time, he says it doesn’t appear to have changed at all; you’re still having challenges marketing and selling what you feel so many people need to implement in their live.
After all, he asked you for examples of what you’ve manifested, and you didn’t produce any; you say your methods “frickin’ work” for yourself AND those you teach, and yet you haven’t said in what ways, or told of anything specific.
If our assumptions are incorrect, please let us know. But we both get the impression that you’re either putting up a front that doesn’t reflect your world as it truly is, or that you’re living off past accomplishments rather than how things TRULY are now. My first husband did the same thing, and I lived with that for many, many years, so I can see the tell-tale signs. Barry and I have also worked very closely with two people like that, who go out of their way to portray a spiritually evolved being when inside they’re truly lost, angry, and mistrusting of others.
Yes, there is value in “acting as if” or “faking it till you make it”; but if by chance you’ve already made it and lost it again, then it may be time to look at what’s going on and why the pattern repeats. And there is also a lot of value in being congruent when you’re talking with others: walking the talk so you set a solid example, rather than not practicing what you preach (and I’m not saying you DO preach what you don’t practice, but without examples it’s coming across as all talk and no action).
Hope this helps you get to a better place, Ilana.
cheers
Heather